YouTube Comments- England: Evil Empire- BBC Radio Debate Part I
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06/12/2009
jzzr44
USA .. a nation of puffs just like this guy
USA = Ugly sadist ass - holes
Robin303
Sounds that this Steven Grasse is a rasist.
apincle
For about 150 years, between the mid-18th century to the early 20th, we exercised greater influence over the world than any nation in history, and on the whole we did it benignly.
We carried trade, invention and - most important - the rule of law to all manner of societies which had never known these things.
For all the imperfections of the British Empire, it was overwhelmingly a force for stability and good.
HeySnort
World War I didn't start by Britain... It started by a Serbian terrorist shooting Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. Then a chain reaction of nations fighting each other... nah- duh!
poorambo
wot a bellend.
poorambo
iv never been prouder to be english,yank tit!!!
husna99
me neither e-hi5 lol.
poorambo
and jake said hes going to beat the shit out of u
husna99
y is steven grasse obsessed with the past. i bought the book. its a piece of c-rap!
he says we're evil because we made the machine gun but wasnt it the american who created the h-bomb? (btw i have nothing against americans)
and wait. hes saying bad things abotu his ansestors! could it be this man is more of a idiot than i think?
*he makes paris hilton look like a genius* lol
Ccaven
grasse is a moron
suryavajra
Sounds like an interesting and colorful guy...I look forward to reading the book...LOL!
suryavajra
Robin, not to get too technical, but how can be a racist??
I mean I understand if you call him an Anglophobe, but a racist?? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a racist, be defintion someone who has a problem with all white people or all black people, etc??
suryavajra
hey jojokopz, what's wrong with having a space program?? LOL!
Now about the arms race issue. You did have an arms race. Need I remind you of the French in the 1700 to early 1800s?? Or that little episode in history romantically known as the Great Game against the Russians??
Robin303
I'll put it as a Synergism.
The English are a race, he has written a book that is derogatory to the English, therefore he is a racist.
suryavajra
Well I thought the English were a nation and not a race...
Robin303
You can have both you know.
suryavajra
Well it seems to me that when someone bring up race...it's Caucasion or all Whites or something like that....
That race was subdivison than nation....
suryavajra
The last sentence didnot make sense, pardon me...
I always thought that it was race, than the subdivision of race was nation...etc.
Harrycd77
lol most of the americans come from europe and britain.
EddyMcK
Irish.
suryavajra
your point being??
suryavajra
apincle, the Mongols could make the same grandiose claims...LOL!
apincle
then let them.
Though nothing yet can compare with the British Empire at its height.
suryavajra
It would depends on what is being analyzed..
apincle
Size of the Empire. The British Empire was the largest the world has ever seen. At it's height, it covered about a third of the planet. WoW
suryavajra
There you go...That's just empiracal fact right there.
Second it was an Empire that was established by a strong navy. I'm hardpressed to think of any other like it, as the other great previous empires were all predominately land-based empires....
apincle
True. Though we could hardly be a land based Empise with a country no bigger than some of your smaller states! Reckon we're about the same size as Idaho. But slightly colder.
suryavajra
plus the most obvious. The channel isolates Britain from the rest of the European continent. Hence the sea is the only outlet to the larger world.
apincle
Indeed. There was a famous times headline in the 50's "thick fog on channel, continent cut off"
chuckle
suryavajra
LOL! That's funny...
WolfytheWolf5667
Is this supposed to be a Joke?
We were the best Empire around in 1200. The Most civillised...
AND WE STILL ARE.
You fucking racist bastard, How dare you Insult England like this with your pathetic counterfeit videos.
Go back to your own goddamn poor country, and see if we try and help you. Personally, for this, i'd rather A-Bomb your entire people, then show YOU How Evil you have been.
suryavajra
In 1200, you weren't even the best Empire in Europe let alone the world. That honor belonged to the Byzantine Empire and the Moorish Kingdom in Cordoba.
WolfytheWolf5667
Yes, true. Byzantine took over after Rome.
And stinking Germanic population called themselves Romans, Like hell they were.
True matter of this talk:
Stop Insulting England. We did more good than the Middle east, and we've come up with good technology. If you don't remember, WE DID STOP HITLER'S CAMPAIGN PEOPLE...
suryavajra
You did more than the Middle East?? How do you quanitfy that??
The Arab Caliphate preserved Greek and Roman knowlege while Euorope was going through the Dark Ages!!! And Cordoba was the biggest city in Western Europe by far!!!
As for Hitler, I'll give you credit for that. But remember, you had the mighty Commonwealth.
suryavajra
By the way, you shouldnot wish for any one to be nuked. It's a terrible way to go. The closest thing to Hell on Earth.
That wish for such wanton carnage because of a few jokes by Grasse, tell us more about your destructive impulses. If the majority of Brits are like you in belief then the Special Relationship can go into the toilet bowl for all I care...
conthekid
as a historian he must be fairly shit england has it dark history chapters but so does every other countries and the reason for ww1 and ww2 he gives are pure utter nonsence and by the way im not english
conthekid
i bet ya he bets says england are to blame for aids
yasashii89
ww1 and 2 is GERMANYS fault, wtf...
leon778899
At the end of the day, Mr Grasse is living in a country where he enjoys the very rights, freedoms, liberties and democracy which has most of their roots in BRITAIN, all because of the Empire's legacy. There's no denying that Britain committed many atrocities in how it dealt with colonial opposition, but ultimately the benefits of the Empire such as democracy, rule of law, economic prosperity, civil liberties, infrastructural development, and many more besides, far outweighed the negatives.
suryavajra
leon, you're just not getting it.
All of those things you mentioned, did not come part and parcel with the Empire. Seriously. How was the Raj government a democracy of any kind in India?? Was it rule of law for General Dyer to kill those unarmed protestors?? Was it economic prosperity for the the British to destroy the indigenous cotton industry?? And mind you, I'm just talking about one country.
The Empire was a contradiction to all those time-honored British values.
thlcfc
He has no right to make these claims he has no knowledge to back them up. He blames Britain for Africas problems, IT WAS AMERICA WHO LENT MONEY TO AFRICA, MONEY THEY WASTED BECAUSE AMERICA DIDNT TELL THEM HOW TO SPEND IT, AFRICA NOW CANT PAY THAT MONEY BACK BECAUSE THEY LENT TO MUCH OUT SO AFRICA HAS NO MONEY TO SPENT ON HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, OR ANYTHING ALL ITS INCOME GOES ON PAYING AMERICA BACK THEREFORE I BLAME AMERICA FOR AFRICAS POVERTY.
1515100005
Brits are fucked up!!
this country started ww2 and imperialism.
"we contributed to the world"
go to hell
